Sunday, March 23, 2008

Papal Conversions and Mixed Messages

Pope Benedict’s Easter message was to be one calling for the end of injustice worldwide, but instead became of a publicity stunt as he praised the continuing conversions to Christianity after publicly baptizing a “Prominent Muslim”. During the Eatser vigil on Saturday night the Pope baptized the Egyptian born Magdi Allam, often seen as Italy’s most prominent Muslim commentator. An outspoken critic of “Islamic fanaticism” Mr. Allam frequently wrote articles which condemned Islam or aspects of Islam and in doing so gained much notoriety becoming one of the most popular, controversial journalists in Italy.

The conversion of Magdi Allam was kept secret until just an hour before the Saturday night vigil and was again reaffirmed in the words of the Pope spoke of the resurrection of Christ and its effect, "thousands and thousands of people converted to the Christian faith" and he added: "This is a miracle that still renews itself today". With the seemingly open and highly publicized conversion of Mr. Allam one would assume it was a clear message to the world of Christianity’s supremacy over Islam, yet the Vatican began to backtrack and contradict this message as Cardinal Giovanni Re was quoted as saying "Conversion is a private matter, a personal thing and we hope that the baptism will not be interpreted negatively by Islam,"

If indeed it is a private matter why then would an individual be baptized by the Pope on the eve of his Easter Mass? Why not at his local church? Why did the Vatican give this conversion such a high profile status? The answer seems to be that the Papal propaganda machine saw the benefit of publicizing the conversion in an attempt to extol the virtues of Catholicism as opposed to Islam. If this was indeed the desired attempt why would they then talk of the privacy of conversion and faith?
The simple fact is that they are misleading those who know nothing about Islam. Islam is not something you are born into alone. Islam is a way of life that one has to openly accept, and if it is not accepted then you are not truly a Muslim.

Magdi “Christian” Allam (Christian is the name accepted during his baptism) is not, and indeed was not a Muslim. So the highly publicized conversion of a “prominent Muslim” was in fact nothing more then cheap theatrics meant to dazzle and amaze the Catholic faithful, nothing more then illusions based on lies.

In the end we are dealing with a man who attended catholic school while growing up in Egypt, is married to a Catholic, admitted to never praying five times a day, and never fasted during the Holy month of Ramadan. What kind of Muslim is this one might ask? He is the kind of Muslim who has been called a Muslim-Zionist by Israeli’s Haaretz newspaper, was given the Mass Media Award by the American Jewish Committee, lashed out at what he calls "the Islamization of society.", objects to allowing Muslims to have their own courts in matters of family law, and warns that assimilation and acceptance of Muslims in Europe is a process that will "unbalance the country and overthrow constitutional order." As well as supporting a ban on building Mosques.

Allam is free to choose whatever religion he wants as it is obvious he never accepted Islam, it is abundantly clear he was in fact anti-Islam, however to then try and disguise this fact and promote his conversion on a stage as grand as the Vatican is nothing more then mere parlor tricks meant to deceive and mislead the masses. In self-aggrandizing fashion the Vatican has started down the path of disgrace; only through honesty and sincerity can we seek mutual understanding.

6 Comments:

At 3/25/2008 12:11 PM, Anonymous Roby said...

Good news. Magdi Allam is the only muslim-born intellectual that I was pleased to see in tv or read on the newspapers. The first time I heard of him I was left without words. A moderate muslim!!! They exist!!! His conversion or simply leave of Islam was only a matter of time, it was too strange that a brilliant man as him will accept to be defined - even nominally - as a muslim.
Regard the date, that was the Pope that politely gives a finger to Oussama & his followers that few days before accused and threatened him. Good timing indeed.

 
At 3/25/2008 12:44 PM, Blogger Hamza Hashem said...

Roby,

Do you actually read the articles before commenting on them? Or do you simply find out what it is about and start making your comments in hopes of inflaming the situation? Let me address your comment in context to the actual article.

A moderate Muslim you say? Who exactly are you talking about? Magdi Allam was Egyptian but surely not Muslim as I stated in the article. It is not lightly that a person can call another not Muslim, but when you take into account his own admission and his recent “conversion” you can only be left with the fact that he was indeed never a Muslim.

So let me clarify this for you – Egyptian born means he can call himself African or Arab or Egyptian, these are facts he had no control over and cannot change. Muslim however he is not nor was he based on his outlandish charges against Islam in general (read the article), and you cannot convert from something that you are not (I cannot convert to Judaism from Christianity because I am not Christian).

Islam is a choice, a way of life, it is not something you are born into like the color of your skin. Mr. Allam seemingly never accepted Islam as a way of life, and instead continually worked against it. Propaganda is propaganda regardless of where or when it comes.

Furthermore I would suggest that your Pope shouldnt even figuratively "give the finger" to anyone, isnt he suppose ot be above all of that?

 
At 3/27/2008 2:07 PM, Anonymous Roby said...

Hamza Hashem,

You are very good when you say that he was not a moderate muslim, because it's indeed true that such a category do not really exist, muslims submit completely to their religion without objections. I was referring to the category of "moderate muslims" defined by media, that cannot state (for political correctness) that moderate Islam definitively do not exist. I'm happy that Magdi Allam, a very good and honest journalist, is finally free from the muslim adjective that he got from being born in a muslim country. The irrationality, the mentality, the violence of your religion don't belong to him. He cannot bear no more even to be called "moderate muslims" and decided to convert officially. Yeah, you can object that he was not a practicant muslim from years, but this is not the point. The point is your continuos disturbance on bussiness which are not yours.
What I ask is simply: Don't Muslims have anything else to do in their lives besides get enraged at other people for being different than them? When is anything not a 'provocative act' when it comes to islam? What is wrong with you people that everything that reflects not good on your cult is some sort of a conspiracy by infidels to hurt "muslim sensibilities"?
Remember that is part of the Pope's job to baptize converted and it's a right of every convert to choose where, when and by who get baptized. The Pope gets to baptize a believer when he wants and where he wants. Get over yourself. It seems that in your mentality Christians may practice their faith, but they must do so out of sight. Are Muslims so obnoxious that they would dictate to us how we may behave in our own countries? But above all, Allam's personal religious convinctions are not the bussiness of muslim scholars or believers, but a personal matter of his coscience and beliefs. But I fear you wouldn't understand that.

 
At 3/29/2008 8:13 PM, Blogger egyptaya said...

roby,
I am happy also that this Magdi alam is now officially not a Muslim. A muslim is not a muslim because he is born in a Muslim family. A muslim is only a muslim if he/she believes fully in Allah and believes in the whole msg of islam. If i may add, Allah certainly does not need us, but we need Him. Allah does not need Mr Allams`s islam, Mr Allam needs Him. He can be a christian, a jew, an athiest or he can even sell his soul to the devil if he wants to. As for Islam, its here to stay, and as for Allah, He is The Mighty, The Majestic and The Most High. He is Allah and there is no Allah but Him.

very well done article Hamza,thank you :)

 
At 4/12/2008 9:38 AM, Blogger Hamza Hashem said...

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At 4/12/2008 9:43 AM, Blogger Hamza Hashem said...

Roby,
I tried not to respond but every time I read the article and see your comment it becomes more and more irresistible for me to ignore, so let me show you where I am coming from first…

“I’ve to say that my first comment was more a hit and run provocation… it’s a my blaming perversion write sick comment on others blog to see the owner’s blog reaction” These ever so famous words were penned on 03/28/2006 by none other then yourself.

I can clearly say that it is apparent you never stopped; you come merely to incite and not discuss. You come with provocation and not sincerity. You seek anger and not honesty. But you see I have one fault or weakness myself that I am sure you have discovered by now… I can not avoid confrontation and while I do not get angry, I can not help myself but by responding so once again, here I go…

First of all let me actually ask you, if you actually read the whole article or merely the highlights? What I was actually saying is that Mr. Allam was not a Muslim (moderate or otherwise) and gave specific reasons illustrating my reasons for saying such. So your entire first paragraph is basically all for naught.

Responding to your bigoted views of “The irrationality, the mentality, and violence of…” I again implore you to actually read the Quran and its meanings before making such ignorant and uneducated assessments. It is simple to misquote and take out of context selected verses, so please don’t let others think for you and tell you what is right or wrong about Islam, educate yourself. I say this because the majority of your arguments and stock arguments taken off the shelves of the numerous “Anti-Islam” websites floating around.

Now moving on, you state “The point is your continuos disturbance on bussiness which are not yours.” I am assuming you mean I should not be disturbed by business that is not my own? When they decide to make a public spectacle of his “conversion” you are now putting it on my doorstep and allowing me if not encouraging me to comment.

Next we have a series of questions: “Don't Muslims have anything else to do in their lives besides get enraged at other people for being different than them?” About as much as anyone else, and if you think it is just Muslims I suggest you look up words like racism, sexism, and xenophobia. If people did not pay attention to the differences we would live in a Utopian world would we not? But sadly we don’t and you can hardly blame Muslims for the ills of all mankind.

“When is anything not a 'provocative act' when it comes to islam?” Let me think… When it is not deliberately insultive, when it is not meant to defame or disparage our Religion or our Prophets.

“What is wrong with you people that everything that reflects not good on your cult is some sort of a conspiracy by infidels to hurt "muslim sensibilities"?” First of all your veiled insult by calling Islam a cult is exactly what is wrong people like you. Before mention words like “Muslim Sensibilities” perhaps you should understand what they are first.

Your attempts at writing are overall better but you logic is still flawed and your comments make relatively little sense.

It is part of the Pope’s job to baptize people? It is the right of the convert to select where, when and by whom the are baptized by? Are you seriously trying to tell me this nonsense? When was the last time the Pope baptized someone? Better yet tell me, if that is true how come not every convert does not seek him out to baptize them? If you believe they wouldn’t if they thought they could, you are sadly mistaken or underestimate your own co-religionists. The Pope would indeed be spending all day baptizing people if it were just part of his daily chores.

“It seems that in your mentality Christians may practice their faith, but they must do so out of sight” – When and where did I say this? You tell me to get over myself, and yet you yourself seem so arrogant that you can openly misrepresent what I say. The story is about how they publicly used his conversion as an attack on Islam, and by doing so they brought it out into the public. I never said they can not, but when you make it public you are opening yourself to comment, or are you saying that I do not have that same right of free speech you claim to hold so dearly?

“Are Muslims so obnoxious that they would dictate to us how we may behave in our own countries?” Not anymore then you are when you comment on anything pertaining to the Middle East or any other Muslim or Muslim country.

“But above all, Allam's personal religious convinctions are not the bussiness of muslim scholars or believers, but a personal matter of his coscience and beliefs.” Do you work for the Vatican? Because that is the same line (more or less) that they came out with in defense of the publicity his conversion received. I will again reiterate – When you bring it into the public eye you are asking for others to not only see but are infact asking for comments and critism. How many articles did you complain about when they applauded Mr. Allam’s conversion? Or once again are we Muslims suppose to be silent and not seen? Are you now taking away the very rights you so passionately try to defend in other comments? Hypocrisy is not the best defense.

 

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